Episode 67: circling back

“Our threshold for violence is so high that seeing someone die in front of you is what it takes for someone to take action or say something's wrong.”

Laura circles back with Muoki Musau, whose perspective began this week of amplifying and celebrating Black voices. In the first conversation they've ever had--a conversation that begins and ends with laughter--they agree together to talk about racism in America, and Muoki shares his vision for a better way forward.

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