“The journey lasted so long that by the time we finally returned, the dock was different, and so were we. This isn’t just the story of the pandemic, but of this podcast and of my family.”

“I spent years and years in high school and college nannying and babysitting and taking care of little children. And I still felt leveled by this experience.”

And my mother, she said, “you know, this writing thing is really frustrating you. I can see that. Maybe what you ought to do is take a break and try something else for a while.”

“How does your mother's influence show up in your life? Who are you because of your mother? What did or didn't you talk to your mother about?”